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Would Jesus Discriminate?Thanks to Spencer’s brother Josh for putting these beautiful clips together,and for including the following statement with each video: “This is a clip from a wedding video that was made for the wedding celebration of Spencer Jones and Tyler Barrick that took place in the Russian River Valley of California September 4-6,2009 . These are two people I love and respect immensely and I’ve gained tremendous respect for their relationship through the years by seeing the qualities of love,commitment,nurturing,etc. they share in their relationship despite everything they’ve gone through–qualities I would want in my own heterosexual marriage relationship.
I think we all have the tendency to fear things that we don’t understand or that seem foreign to us (and unfortunately fear and ignorance often breed hate). So if that is the case for you–no matter what your stance is on homosexuality,proposition 8,or whatever–I believe the bottom line (and what basic Christian doctrine teaches,for that matter) is to strive for understanding,love,and tolerance toward all people,whether you agree with their actions or not. Hopefully these clips will help you take a step in that love/tolerance direction,if you weren’t already headed that way:)”
Spencer and Tyler are featured in the recent Reed Cowen documentary 8:The Mormon Proposition ,which premiered at The Sundance Film Festival. Currently playing at select film festivals with a theatrical and video on demand release on June 18th.
I think that this is very distasteful. Using the Mormon church when they are not the only people who have a problem with this disgusting practice. I wonder what is going to go through the Stay’s mind,when they realize they have left a foundation that brings true happiness,and that is through Jesus. Not through promoting something that the Bible repeatedly says not to do. Besides,if the problem was that churches,specifically the Mormon’s,were pushing their ideology on others,what do you think it is when one of the smallest minorities (gender confused people) do so in the same way,trying to push their ideology onto others?
I’ll tell you what is distasteful,Robert. That would be you and your religious wacko friends. Please understand that gays and lesbians are not trying to “push their ideology onto others.”First,it’s not an “ideology”—it’s who they are. Second,all they want is to have the same rights —equal rights —as everyone else in this country. I don’t think that’s too much to ask,considering our Constitution guarantees them equal rights. Finally,I hope and pray that the Mormon Church loses its tax-exempt status for being nothing more than a political action committee that throws its money around to skew elections all across the country,while simultaneously concealing its identity because they KNOW that people will find anything the Mormons are behind to be distasteful and bigoted.
Robert –you say “not through promoting something that the Bible repeatedly says not to do.”Show it to me. So far,I have not been able to find one (1) verse in the Bible that says that same-sex marriage is wrong,much less repeated verses. You have such a twisted since of religion,and I am glad that one day,God will strike you and all the other false believers with His wrath.
This is so disgusting! I think that I am going to throw up! Human beings are not made to be this way. This,besides killing people,is a great way to make us extinct.
Jorge –crawl back in your cave. God approves of same sex marriage. I have as much Biblical proof of this as you do to prove that He is against it. Hmmm,what can you say now.
Good grief,I truly do not understand people who are so homophobic. Jorge,do you think allowing same-sex marriage will cause all of us heterosexuals to become homosexuals (because that is the only way that allowing same-sex marriage could make us extinct).
And,Robert,do you think that allowing the LGBT community the same rights as a citizen of the United States that you have is pushing their ideology onto others? What is it when a coalition takes away rights from a law-abiding,tax-paying segment of citizens and by doing so also infringes on the religios freedom of those churches that accept same-sex marriage? Not all Christians think the way that the leaders of the coalition think.
Congratulations to both of you! You are a beautiful couple. Watching your story on “8:The Mormon Proposition”brought tears to my eyes more than once. My best wishes to you both.
I currently have “8:The Mormon Proposition”in my home from Netflix,and it left me with a mixture of emotions,sadness,anger,and warmth. Warmth,where Spencer and Tyler are concerned,because the looks on their faces express nothing but love and adoration to each other. I will NEVER be able to understand how anyone could be “disgusted”by their expressions of love for each other,and their desire to live as a married couple,in that love and devotion. Anger,because it appalls me to no end that a group of people who disagree want to tear such loving couples apart. Sadness because of the needless suicides from a hatemongering group of people that think (mistakenly) that they know the commandments of God. To Tyler and Spencer:May God always love and protect you. You are a wonderful couple! No one will ever take that away from you. To Linda:You are surely a “SuperMom”. I don’t even know you,but have feelings of warmth and love towards you for what you have endured. You have fought a very brave fight. Love,and prayers always,Dennis.
There is already so much hate in the world,that it is disheartening to see people continuing to foster hate through their negative comments on this forum,using Christianity and the Bible as the foundation of their hate. The Bible is not a weapon,and I truly believe people have forgotten the 2 greatest commandments:to love God and love their fellow man. I applaud Tyler &Spencer. I too am a gay Mormon who wants equal rights. I congratulate you both and will continue to be an activist until the day when my state will allow me the same rights to spend my life with the person I love,just as it extends to people who have chosen to be straight.
You’re right. That IS the way to do it. I’ve had friends and companions try to convince me otherwise,but rest well knowing that is definitely right.
I just watched “8:The Mormon Proposition”for the first time last night. Religious or not religious,I can’t believe how hateful people can be. I was lucky enough to be raised by open-minded and loving parents who encouraged me to be open-minded and loving as well. I agree with Dennis–how can you look at Spencer and Tyler and NOT feel happy for them? They are clearly a strong,loving couple.
I guess what confuses me the most is why people think this will affect their relationships. They make these arguments that humans will go extinct,or that same-sex marriage will de-value opposite-sex marriage. First of all,kudos to Sheryl for pointing out that homosexuality is not contagious…legalizing same-sex marriage will not suddenly make everyone want to be gay and stop having babies. Second of all,if you let outside factors such as this affect your marriage,something that is supposed to be a private and intimate bond with your spouse,then there is something wrong with your marriage to begin with.
I could go on and on here,as gay rights are my passion,but I will cut this short. I just wanted to say that I am so happy to see a family standing behind their loved ones,despite what their community is telling them to do. These are the people we claim to LOVE so how could you abandon them because of their choice of who to love? Wouldn’t you rather them be happy and content and prospering in their relationship,not cowering in fear and shame? True love is the former,not the latter.
Robert,you do realize that the Bible is not God writings,don’t you? The Bible was written my man. The commandments are God’s writings according to the Bible. My choice is what I choose to do and if I’m causing no harm,it shouldn’t bother you. Your choice is who you choose to be and if you’re causing no harm…Then you’re alright with me……….that is what God really is saying. Also I believe what my grandmother always said to me. We will not be judged for what we did,but for what we could have done and didn’t. Be a kind and loving person,do not judge less you be judged. He,whom is without sin cast the first stone. Your hatred is a sin according to the Bible. Any organization that spends money for political gain should not be given a tax exempt status.
I saw this beautiful couple in 8:the mormon proposition about a year ago,and I fell in love with their story. They are so strong and loving towards one another. I am glad they were able to be married,and heartbroken that prop 8 passed. I am from Idaho,and my brother and his partner of four years will not be able to marry for a long time,and it makes me sick. I hope that some day everyone will be able to have equal marriage rights. How can anyone look at Tyler and Spencer and those videos and believe that they are not meant to be together? That their love and marriage isn’t valid?? They are wonderful and I wish them the very best.
Beautiful. So heartfelt and happy. Bless you boys and many,many happy years together.